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| | * I still like these, too: Equipment, Shaving, Regular Maintenance, Repairing & Restoring. While the above proposed category structure is certainly workable and much better than what is currently in place, I have proposed a slightly different tree in the Wiki forum | | * I still like these, too: Equipment, Shaving, Regular Maintenance, Repairing & Restoring. While the above proposed category structure is certainly workable and much better than what is currently in place, I have proposed a slightly different tree in the Wiki forum |
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| − | == Comments on Lee's comments ([[User:BeBerlin|BeBerlin]] 15:06, 25 December 2008 (UTC)) == | + | == Comments on Lee's comments (BeBerlin 15:06, 25 December 2008 (UTC)) == |
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| | # My suggestion lacks a "random stuff" category, into which should go the FAQ, and some more generic articles like "What every beginner should know". | | # My suggestion lacks a "random stuff" category, into which should go the FAQ, and some more generic articles like "What every beginner should know". |
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| | # Safety disclaimers... Personally, I find them humiliating, patronising, and generally ridiculous. I do, however, not come from a land with punitive damages. I agree that a safety bit should be added to the Dislaimers in the footer. I also agree that whereever safety is actually an issue (such as working with spalted wood, where such a warning already exists), a short, prominent warning should be added. I suggest writing a template for that one to make it uniform. | | # Safety disclaimers... Personally, I find them humiliating, patronising, and generally ridiculous. I do, however, not come from a land with punitive damages. I agree that a safety bit should be added to the Dislaimers in the footer. I also agree that whereever safety is actually an issue (such as working with spalted wood, where such a warning already exists), a short, prominent warning should be added. I suggest writing a template for that one to make it uniform. |
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| − | Everything else is open for discussion. I really like your "Other Topics" section in https://straightrazorpalace.com/srp-wiki/29475-new-category-layout-proposal-s.html#post299415 though. | + | Everything else is open for discussion. I really like your "Other Topics" section in http://www.straightrazorplace.com/forums/srp-wiki/29475-new-category-layout-proposal-s.html#post299415 though. |
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| − | == Minor Comments on Above Comments & BeBerlin's Proposal ([[User:hoglahoo|Lee]] 05:08, 26 December 2008 (UTC) ==
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| − | # Sounds good
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| − | # Yep
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| − | # How about "Straight Razor Brands & (choose one: Histories/Backgrounds)"?
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| − | # Yes, and not only punitive damage, but people who don't always use common sense first...
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| − | : Bonus: I like a category title that includes the words "honing" (or hones) and "stropping" (or strops) for easier top level reference for the two most commonly asked about straight razor accessories. Maybe "Maintenance: Using Hones and Strops" which will include using them to take care of a razor and also will include taking care of the hones and strops, general information about them, etc
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| − | : Also, Restoration and Repair are going to dovetail with each article. They should be combined into one category. Specific article names should be sufficient differentiation eg. "How to remove minor chips", "Bluing a blade", "Repinning a razor" etc.
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| − | == Category names vs. article titles ([[User:BeBerlin]] 08:03, 26 December 2008 (UTC)~) ==
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| − | Right, so we're almost there. One last remark: My suggestion was to come up with new categories, and to order them in a meaningful way. When you say ''I like a category title that includes the words "honing" (or hones) and "stropping" (or strops) for easier top level reference for the two most commonly asked about straight razor accessories.'' then that does not necessarily mean we need to change my category names. The name of the category is for sorting purposes only, cf. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Category#Category_considerations
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| − | We should also speak with dwessel whether he can turn on the import and export functions while we "move" the existing categories. Alternatively, we forget about their respective histories, and simply delete / create new categories (and their corresponding category pages).
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| − | == Titles and Restructuring ([[User:hoglahoo|Lee]] 20:57, 26 December 2008 (UTC) ==
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| − | I like the tree. The Wiki is still fairly small, and very few of the newly uploaded files have been categorized anyway; the existing categories should be scrapped so we can create new categories from scratch in order to avoid confusion (on my part).
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| − | * Update: The tree is planted, although it is not exactly as it should be. The structure is certainly workable though. I look forward to repairing my late night errors at some point and completing tagging the SRP help files with category inclusion - [[User:hoglahoo|Lee]] 4:23 pm EST, 27 Dec. '08
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| − | == Those help files... ==
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| − | As discussed last night, I would use a bulk renaming tool to give them a more useful name first. Or find someone with some time on their hands and move the existing files. Either way, the name should already reflect the category or subject matter.
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| − | I wonder if previews for PDF files can be created by the Wiki. I think that would be useful. The main gripe I have with the files is that they do not come with an excerpt / a succinct description. I wonder if pdfthumbs (a tool to generate thumbnail images from PDF files) and Mediawiki's gallery tag might be helpful here. Hmmm...
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| − | : I am unable to rename the uploaded files. Maybe da bomb can be petitioned for such capability. Previews would be nice - [[User:hoglahoo|Lee 14:31]] CST, 28 Dec. '08
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| − | : Actually I am able to rename the uploaded files by updating them with a newer version - [[User:hoglahoo|Lee 08:14]] CST, 30 Dec. '08
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| − | == Two suggestions related to the Database of razors ==
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| − | Hello gents,
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| − | Fantastic work on the razor DB! I have these two suggestions:
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| − | 1. change the headline from
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| − | "Help SRP grow its database of straight razors!"
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| − | "Database of Straight Razors - Help Us Grow It!"
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| − | in order to make the term "database of straight razors" more visible in the page.
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| − | 2. add a link to the database to the Document/Background section, possibly after the bullet of "Straight razor manufacturers" or into the Shaving equipment section. Btw. I think that the Shaving Equipment section deserves a consolidation, IMO razors should be in the first place instead of the current "Additional Equipment".
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| − | Thanks for your patience with me. :)
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| − | === 15:17, 25 March 2009 (UTC) ===
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| − | : ad 1.: Keep the caps to a minimum, i.e. Straight Razor Data base - help us grow it.
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| − | : ad 2.: We are working on a solution for sorting categories right now. ''Sparq: I fixed sorting of the Equipment category.''
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| − | == New Lather category under Straight_Razor_Shaving ==
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| − | I added a new category "Lather", put it under Straight_Razor_Shaving and moved the three illustrated lather making guides to it. It did not make much sense to me to have them under Recommended_Equipment.
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