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Looking good!  :)

This is looking really good. What about a slight change to the Welcome to make the SRP an external link to the forums?

Also, should we spend some time on a slick intro with a nice picture?

This should do for the time being - we need more content BeBerlin 15:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I am not overly happy with the layout and colours, but can take care of that at a later stage. I am currently creating stub pages to encourage users to contribute.
I will look into the category tree extension, as I would prefer it to output a bulleted list as this is being used throughout the rest of the page.
Apart from a slick intro with image, we absolutely need a privacy statement, and an about page. I think.

Awesome job guys..

I'll try and find an image of the SRP razor, that would be nice on the front page.
Maybe something to more directly show that we have the forums/main site as well.
Like the one there now or something else? - Lee

Looking better, still needs...

... a hacked version of the category tree extension (which only outputs the pages itself, without their parent categories).

Alternatively, we might look into the portal extension.

BeBerlin 18:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Safety

The wiki needs both a concise article and a comprehensive article regarding health and safety when working with and using straight razors

I think this should go into the Disclaimer at the bottom of the page. Speaking of which, we still don't have a copyright notice, privacy policy or an about page. BeBerlin 18:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Some guidelines for stickification in the forum have been submitted to the SRP Legislature touching generalities of copyright, privacy, and Wiki usage. We will still need what BeBerlin detailed above for the Wiki itself - Lee 24 Dec. 2008 17:20 (UTC)

Proposition for new layout 14:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

hoglahoo's done a great job at re-formatting the front page. I really like it.

However, I am less than happy with the presentation of the existing contents. While growing the Wiki, we have not - in my humble opinion - paid enough attention to the category namespace. This has led to redundancies. Also, I believe the Tutorials section should go as a whole.

I would like to propose the following structure. For lack of a better representation of categories, I am using headings. But it should give you the right idea.

While on the topic, I think that a modified version of the categorytree extension (see bottom below) would be helpful for navigation purposes. Something for dwessel?

Since I cannot post in the forum, I would like to suggest that you link to this page in the forum if you believe this feasible.

Proposed layout for Wiki categorisation

History of shaving

Historic shaving tools

Straight razors

Straight razors in Europe
Straight razors in the US
Straight razors in the rest of the world

Equipment needed

Basic equipment needed

Basic equipment recommended

Extended equipment

Straight razor shaving explained

Preparing your face

Shaving with a straight razor

Basic techniques
Advanced techniques

Treating your face after the shave

Maintaining straight razors

Stropping

Regular strops
Pasted strops

Honing

Basic honing
Advanced honing

Repairing or restoring straight razors

Repair

Blade
Scales

Restoration

Blade
Scales

Some experiments with categorytree

<categorytree mode=pages style="float:right; clear:right; margin-left:1ex; border:1px solid gray; padding:0.7ex; background-color:white;">Tutorials</categorytree>

<categorytree mode=pages>History</categorytree>

<categorytree mode=parents>Equipment</categorytree>

<categorytree mode=all>Maintenance and honing</categorytree>

<categorytree mode=categories showcount>Tutorials</categorytree>

Answer to proposed layout - Lee 24 Dec. 2008 16:48 (UTC)

  • I agree that the tutorials section should go and that the categories need restructuring. My concern is that the most oft-asked questions need to be answered with the category structure, the main headings of which should all be located on the main page. So when a newcomer finds the wiki asking "what do I need to buy to get started" or "my grandfather gave me an old razor, what is it and what do I need to do with it" he or she will be able to easily and quickly find the answers. What are the most asked questions? Can someone without any knowledge of straight terminologies or methodologies look at the main categories or at least a short tree of categories and subcategories and find answers to the most common questions?
  • Partly because of this I think "history of shaving" should be a subcategory of "straight razors". I also think "Equipment Needed" should simply include pages of lists rather than subcategories since each tool should be detailed either in straight razors, maintenance, or restoration categories.
  • I think a safety disclaimer should appear below every page and both that disclaimer and the main page should link to a more comprehensive safety article.
  • I still like these, too: Equipment, Shaving, Regular Maintenance, Repairing & Restoring. While the above proposed category structure is certainly workable and much better than what is currently in place, I propose something like the following

Equipment

Required Equipment

Straight Razors
Manufacturers
Physical Description & Kinds of Razors
Where to Find Straight Razors
Strops
Manufacturers
Physical Description & Kinds of Strops
Where to Find Strops
Other Necessities

Additional Equipment

Brushes
Soaps & Creams
Aftershaves
Styptics
Scuttles & Mugs
Hones
Manufacturers
Physical Description & Kinds of Strops
Where to Find Strops
Equipment Storage

Shaving

Before the Shave

Beard Preparation
The Shave
Post Shave

Other Shaving (Head Shaving, Shaving Goats, Etc.

Regular Maintenance

Stropping

Honing

Repairing & Restoring

Necessary Tools & Equipment

Additional Tools & Equipment

Restoring & Repairing Blades

Restoring & Repairing Scales

Forging New Blades

Making New Scales

Other Topics

Safety

Photographing Straight Razors

Glossaries